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Answers to your questions

Q. Why does the entire Barn and Carriage House siding need to be replaced? Can’t we just fix the leaks as they appear?

A. The non-treated siding boards on the Barn and Carriage House have been exposed to the weather for many years. As a result, a large percentage of the boards are twisted, warped, and pulling off the Barn (and are not able to be re-attached). In one contractor’s sample, almost 70% of the boards in the sample area need to be replaced.

In addition, the nature of the patina on the siding means that replacing damaged weathered boards with new boards will give the Barn an unfortunate “patched” look. It will also prohibit the plan to seal the siding (to extend its life) since this would make the patched look permanent.

Finally, re-siding allows us to insert an air space between the siding and walls – a significant element to prolonging the life of the siding.

Q. What are you going to do with the current siding once it is removed?

A.
  1. The best siding will be used as the new ceiling in the Barn Lower Level, as part of the sound-proofing project for the BLL.
  2. The rest of the siding will be sold on the secondary market.  The proceeds will go towards the cost of the RENEW campaign.

Q. How were St. John’s His Place Food Ministry and the Turning Point domestic violence shelter chosen as recipients of RENEW mission dollars

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In October, 2016, Pastor John met with the Mission Committee. He laid out the plan for the Renew initiative, indicating that it would raise some $190,000 in one-time, game-changing mission dollars.  He challenged the Mission Committee to come up with one to three special projects that would worthy of these funds.  After several months of research and discussion, the Mission Committee recommended two projects to Session:In October, 2016, Pastor John met with the Mission Committee. He laid out the plan for the Renew initiative, indicating that it would raise some $190,000 in one-time, game-changing mission dollars.  He challenged the Mission Committee to come up with one to three special projects that would worthy of these funds.  After several months of research and discussion, the Mission Committee recommended two projects to Session:

  • Completely renovating both the kitchen and the dining space used for His Place ministry at St. John’s Church (Liberty’s mission partner in Franklinton).
  • Sponsoring an entire room in the soon-to-be-constructed Turning Point domestic violence shelter in Delaware County.After discussion, Session approved these two designated mission projects at its May 31, 2017 meeting.

Q. I have a few questions about the details regarding the new siding on the Barn:

  1. Do the architectural plans call for new Tyvek (or another water barrier product) to be put on the OSB sheathing before adding the new siding? 
  2. When the new siding is installed, will the end butts be cut at 45 degree angles to minimize water penetration? 
  3. The siding will come pre-sealed on four sides.  Do the architectural plans require that any cut siding be sealed on the cut surface?  
  4. What kind of fasteners will be used for the new siding? 
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(From Peter Lenz, the church’s architect for RENEW):

1. “We have two different conditions. In the Barn, with the framing covered in SIP (Structural Insulated Panels), the system is an integral unit – it already has a water barrier.  The Carriage House has a steel framed structure. The exterior OSB sheathing is covered in Tyvek. Unfortunately, when the Carriage House was built, the design did not have a thermal break, so heat loss travelled rapidly through the steel studs, creating problems. In our residing of the Carriage House, we are including a continuous thermal break with an insulated panel to separate the steel framing from the outside. Tyvek or another similar exterior cover will be part of this system. These coverings must let water vapor escape to the outside but prevent liquid water from entering the wall system. Finally, a rain curtain, which allows liquid water to run down the wall in a controlled fashion and then, at the bottom escape to the outside, completes the package. Trapped water inside the wall is our enemy.”

2. “This is good carpenter practice. It is covered in the attached specifications to the architectural drawings.”

3. “Again, the architectural specifications call for sealed ends.”

4. “The drawings are very specific about the fastening of the siding to the substrate. Two things to remember.  First, wood does not change dimension in the long dimension; however, it does swell and shrink in its width.  Second, wood, if left wet on one side (inside) and dried by the sun and wind on the outside, will cup. That created the problem on your original siding. Because of the existing substrate thickness on the SIP panels, only screws will give you adequate holding power to limit the cupping. Using battens will allow for movement in width and also hold down the edges to minimize cupping.  Finally, we will be using color-coated, galvanized screws.”

Q. Can I give electronically to RENEW?

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Yes.  Information on how to give electronically to Liberty (in 2018 and 2019, this is the same as giving to RENEW) can be found through these links:

Q. Some of the prices for the proposed capital projects seem high — do these prices reflect a bidding process?

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No.  The prices for the proposed capital projects are estimates, solicited from an experienced vendor in that field.  These prices enabled the Session to come up with a budget for the capital projects.  When the time comes to move forward with particular projects, the Property Committee will solicit at least two bids.

Q. I am confused by the Renew Commitment Card.  There are so many boxes!  What is the figure that the Session needs in order to budget for Renew in 2018-2019?

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The short answer: we need you to fill in just one box – “My Two-Year Renew Commitment.”  That represents the total amount of dollars you are committing to Renew in both 2018 and 2019.  That’s the key number the Session needs to manage Renew.

The boxes are an attempt to help you get to that one number — a worksheet if you will.  Start with the three boxes on the left hand side of the commitment card:

  • What I currently give in a year:  Start with a base of what your total financial gift to Liberty will be this year.
  • My increased annual generosity for Renew:   How much more do you plan to give to support Renew in the upcoming year?  For example, if you will give $2,500 to Liberty in 2017, perhaps you’ll can increase your giving by 10%.   You would enter $250 in this box.  (Perhaps you have an opportunity to really stretch your generosity to give an additional $1,000.  You would enter $1,000 in this box).  The box below is the sum of the first two boxes, in the example, $2,500 + $250 = $2,750 (or $2,500 + $1,000 = $3,500).

Moving to the two boxes on the right hand side of the commitment card:

  • X 2 years:  In the example, you need to multiply $2,750 by two since you’re committing to give this amount in both 2018 and 2019 — $2,750 per year for two years = $5,500 (or $3,500 x 2 = $7,000).
  • Gift from my stored resources.  Renew is encouraging you to take a significant step in generosity.  Perhaps you have appreciated stock, or proceeds from a recent sale, or a recent inheritance – a portion of which you decide to contribute to Renew.  Write the cash value of this gift from “stored resources” in this box.

Finally, the key, bottom-line box:  “My Two-Year Renew Commitment”.  Write in this box the total dollar number that you’ve decided to give to Renew in 2018 and 2019.

Q. I understand that you are asking me to support the annual operating budgets in 2018 and 2019, but I don’t see a box on the Renew Commitment Card to show what I’m pledging for the capital projects.

A.

Renew is a different way of raising money.  Unlike previous campaigns (Forward in Faith, for example), we are running one unified campaign for both the church’s operating budgets and for critical improvements and repairs.  Renew is a “One Fund” campaign.

Remember “ONETWOTHREE

  1. We are making ONE ask of the congregation – to return a commitment card on November 19.
  2. This ONE ask will be for a TWO-year financial commitment –how much you plan to donate to Liberty in both 2018 and 2019.
  3. This ONE ask for a TWO-year financial commitment will fund THREE projects:
    • The 2018 operating fund
    • The 2019 operating fund
    • $1.9 million in critical improvements and repairs.

From January 1, 2018 through December 31, 2019, every dollar donated to Liberty will be placed in “one fund” = Renew.  The Finance Committee of Session will be responsible for seeing that these funds are distributed appropriately between the three projects.

Q. I like the idea of renovating the Youth Room, and I like the new floorplan and new entrance.  But the furniture shown in the rendering – I don’t like it that much.  Is the church committed to these furnishings?

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No.  The furnishings pictured in the rendering in the Renew booklet are from a “Design Board” put together by the church’s architects (Peter Lenz and Peter Macrae).  Although the design board was put together thoughtfully, one of its main roles is to provide a bidding contractor a target for how much of a “furnishings/furniture allowance” he should include in his bid.  Once the bid is accepted, the Property Committee intends to consult with the Youth Ministry Committee to sharpen the specific choices in design and color.